Ocean Vuong at Princeton on failing onto the page and the literary tool of nostalgia - the honest answer

[Sequence19]

Princetonian had a long piece in February on Vuong's Richardson Auditorium reading from The Emperor of Gladness. I keep returning to one line in particular. He said America is the only country that gets a dream, that there is no Nigerian or Belgian or Vietnamese dream, and that this is revealing about a country founded on settler colonialism and built on stolen bodies being averse to waking up.

He argued that the MAGA movement performs memory via nostalgia and uses abstraction, which is a literary tool, to avoid specificity. That diagnosis is something I have been chewing on since I read it. Abstraction as a political weapon rather than a craft choice is a productive frame for thinking about what political poetry can actually do.

The other line that stuck was his comment that he failed onto the page. He dropped out of business school in his first term, found open mics at Bar 13 in Manhattan, and used the shame of academic failure as motivating force. Endurance over talent. There is something useful in that for anyone in their twenties or thirties trying to figure out whether the work is worth the cost

'I failed onto the page': Ocean Vuong on upbringing, American identity, and more.www.dailyprincetonian.com

[Ann]

Vuong reads better than almost anyone working right now, the cadence of his speech and his lines is basically identical

[Depot76]

The abstraction as political weapon framing is so useful, I have been trying to articulate something like that for months

[Holly]

I will be honest, I find Vuong overrated and the prose poetry has a sameyness that the cult around him papers over

[MayanHan]

Disagree but the criticism is fair, the second collection had a different texture than Night Sky did

[Quanta]

Talent is a great hindrance is the line I wrote on a postit and stuck above my desk last year

[KeyboardWarrior47]

Anyone read Emperor of Gladness yet

[Jan79]

Halfway through and it is structurally interesting, more conventionally novelistic than On Earth though

[Coder22]

The failed onto the page line is the kind of thing that sounds great but you have to remember he had MacArthur level talent backing it up

[Dan]

Yes but the talent without the willingness to fail produces nothing, that is the actual point

[Margin]

The endurance over talent framing is the most useful career advice in poetry, period