Yann LeCun's new AI startup refuses to call anything it builds AGI or superintelligence

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Alexandre LeBrun, CEO of AMI Labs, the world model startup co-founded by Turing Award winner Yann LeCun after he left Meta, told TechCrunch the company has never once used the term AGI, and has no interest in adopting superintelligence either, the term much of the rest of the industry has shifted toward instead. We never used the word AGI, LeBrun said. And I just noticed that nobody is using it anymore, they switched to superintelligence. Next time we'll switch to something else. There's no good definition. What is superintelligence? I don't know. It's not a very useful word

AMI Labs is building what's called a world model, a system that incorporates physics to predict how the real world will actually behave, rather than predicting the next word in a sentence the way a large language model does. LeBrun's own framing, nudge a glass off a table and you already know it will tip and spill, that intuitive prediction of what happens next is what a world model is meant to capture, and he's explicit that these systems are complementary to LLMs rather than a replacement for them, since language models remain the more efficient tool for processing text specifically

The stakes for getting this right are already visible in robotics, LeBrun says, pointing to a widely shared clip of a dancing, kung fu performing robot at a public event that ended up kicking a child, a very literal example of hardware that's advanced but has no brain guiding context aware behavior. Robots are not safe right now, he said bluntly. There's no solution for that today

AMI is still pre product, having raised $1.03 billion in March at a $3.5 billion pre money valuation with no committed timeline for what it actually ships. LeBrun was in Seoul scouting local partners in robotics, semiconductors and manufacturing, drawn specifically by Korea's existing industrial base and its track record as an unusually fast technology adopter, dating back to the early internet era. We need access to the real world, he said, and training a genuine world model, unlike an LLM, requires exactly that kind of real world environment and industrial partnership rather than something you can build purely inside a lab

Cheeky Kernel

Next time we'll switch to something else is such a dry, accurate summary of how these industry buzzwords keep cycling every couple of years without ever actually getting a stable definition

Context Sookie

The kung fu robot kicking a child story is such a perfect, concrete illustration of the hardware versus brain gap he's describing, way more convincing than any abstract argument about robot safety
My team is always one signing away

RogueAI32

LLMs and world models being complementary rather than competing makes a lot of sense once you actually think about it, language and physical intuition really are pretty separate capabilities even in humans

Luca

A billion dollar raise with zero committed product timeline is a bold amount of trust from investors, shows how much weight LeCun's name alone still carries in this space
My neural net has more confidence than me

HiggsField10

Robots are not safe right now, there's no solution for that today is a remarkably blunt admission from someone literally building the technology meant to eventually solve exactly that problem
git commit -m "fixed everything"

NovaBreaker10

The Korea pivot for real world training data and industrial partnerships makes total sense given how much of the actual hardware, robotics and manufacturing ecosystem is concentrated there specifically
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Sharon79

Refusing to use the AGI label feels less like modesty and more like a deliberate positioning move. The term has become so overloaded that avoiding it might actually help them stay focused.

LeCun has been pretty consistent about skepticism toward current approaches leading directly to AGI.

So building "world models" instead of chasing benchmarks fits that philosophy.

It also gives them breathing room. No hype deadlines, no "we promised human-level intelligence by X" pressure.

Investors seem fine with that tradeoff, which says a lot :)
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Quarry18

That billion-dollar raise without a clear product timeline is wild on paper, but in context it tracks.

Backers are essentially betting on the person, not the roadmap.

We have seen this before with deep tech. Think early OpenAI or even DeepMind days.

Still, the bar will rise quickly. At some point, "interesting research" has to translate into something usable.

Otherwise patience runs out.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Evelyn97

The avoidance of AGI language might actually be a signal of seriousness.

Too many companies throw around "superintelligence" as a marketing hook.

Here it sounds more like: build systems that understand and predict the world better, step by step.

Less flashy, but arguably more grounded.

That said, the irony is people will still interpret it as an AGI play anyway ::)
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Ethan93

World models are a fascinating direction if they can pull it off. The idea of systems that build internal representations and reason over them is not new, but scaling it has been tough.

If AMI Labs cracks even part of that, it could shift how we think about AI beyond just text and images.

Big "if," though.

Plenty of smart teams have tried similar ideas with mixed results.

So expectations should stay measured.
Question everything. Especially the training data.

JayJ

There is also a branding angle here. By refusing the AGI label, they avoid being lumped into the same bucket as companies making big claims.

It creates a subtle contrast: "we are doing real science, not chasing headlines."

Whether that is fair or not is another debate.

But it is a clever way to stand out in a crowded narrative space ;)

NorthernKernel

From a practical angle, the lack of a product roadmap makes it hard to evaluate.

Are they targeting robotics, simulation, decision systems?

World models can apply to all of those, but the execution differs massively.

Until that becomes clearer, it is mostly a research story.

Interesting, but abstract :-\
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EdgeRatedR20

There is something refreshing about not overpromising. The industry could use more of that.

At the same time, complete vagueness is not ideal either.

Users and developers eventually want to know what they can build with it.

So the balance will be key.

Too much mystery and people lose interest.

Baz

Feels like a long-term bet disguised as a startup. More like a lab with venture backing than a typical product company.

That can work, but timelines stretch and narratives drift.

For now, the safest takeaway is simple: smart people exploring a different path.

Whether that path leads somewhere transformative is still wide open.

Curious to see what their first concrete demo looks like ;D
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Fox

That funding round still blows my mind a bit :o

No product, no timeline, just a strong research vision and a big name.

It shows how much capital is chasing the next foundational AI shift.

Also raises the stakes. When that much money is involved, people expect eventual impact.

Even if it takes years.

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